Messages in this thread | | | Date | Sat, 31 May 2008 10:38:08 +0200 | From | Pavel Machek <> | Subject | Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project |
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Hi!
> > One motivation here is to bring bug reporters from active distro > > communities into testing mainline kernels as well. > > My experience from handling both distro-reported and upstream-reported > bugs shows that these two worlds/communitites are really quite different > in their nature. > > Bug reporters who report bug in the vanilla kernel are usually perfectly > fine when someone sends them patch to test, they don't have any problem > recompiling the patched kernel, testing, and reporting back. > > This is not the case with distro kernel bug reporters at all. You usually > can't just tell them "hey, this patch might fix it, report back if it > does". Vast majority of theese users expect the kernel package built for > their distro to be provided, so that they can easily install it and test > it, but requiring any other effort usually doesn't work.
I guess this would be helped if we actually made compiling distro kernel easy.
Default suse installation does not even contain gcc; I'm not sure if we provide our kernel in easy-to-use git form, and I don't think many suse people would be able to create kernel .rpm without help of autobuild system... autobuild only works behind suse firewall and buildservice is not really right answer either.
Having compile-me-kernel script that does all the neccessary steps of compiling/installing distro kernel with custom patches would be great way forward...
Plus, we do very little q&a on distro kernel w.r.t to non-standard .config files. Improving that would be some work, but there would be chance for 'disable CONFIG_NO_HZ and see if it helps' kind of debugging.
Oh and having make prepare-kernel-for-this-distro in vanilla would help a lot, too. Usually, vanilla boots and works on distro with suitable config, but finding that config is not too easy. Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html
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