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    SubjectRe: [PATCH] drivers/net: remove network drivers' last few uses of IRQF_SAMPLE_RANDOM
    On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Jeff Garzik <> wrote:
    > Lennart Sorensen wrote:
    >> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 03:21:49PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
    >>> "no other form of entropy"? See examples in this thread.
    >> So where does one get entropy if not the ethernet adapter on many
    >> embedded systems? If you have no mouse, no keyboard, no hardware number
    >> generator, just ethernet ports and a serial console that usually
    >> receives no input. While ethernet might not be preferable if you have
    >> something else, sometimes you really don't have anything else.
    > Already answered in this thread... EGD illustrates how many sources of
    > entropy remain, even in the example you just gave.
    > Further, you do not want to rely on entropy from a source that declines just
    > as network traffic increases.

    I don't know egd that well, but from a cursory look it gets data from
    such things as w or last (wtmp) which is static on most embedded
    boxes. It also uses netstat and snmp - surely this is at least as easy
    to manipulate as interrupt timings? I'm not a cryptographer by any
    means but it looks as if it works by magic. Last changed 2002, written
    in perl. No, I don't think I'll be shipping this on any systems any
    time soon.

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