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    SubjectRe: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway
    On Jul 05, 2007, at 19:35:11, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
    > On Friday 06 July 2007 09:20:43 Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
    >> No, the freezer creates all those places what are harmful for a
    >> task to block because they will break the freezer :-)
    > Nice try :) Okay then, you remove the freezer, try hibernating,
    > then get back to me after you've fixed your filesystem because some
    > process that wasn't frozen started writing things after the atomic
    > copy (making the on disk filesystem inconsistent with the snapshot).

    Umm, this thread is NOT ABOUT HIBERNATING!!! Please go back and read
    the subject, specifically the "suspend to RAM" parts :-D. When your
    hardware can put itself to sleep and atomically preserve memory as it
    does so, you don't need an atomic copy. For Real Suspend(TM) (IE:
    Suspend-to-RAM), the list of things to do is short and simple:

    1) Stop DMA and put most hardware into low-power states (stops all
    interrupt sources)
    2) Ensure that the other CPUs have finished any trailing interrupt
    handlers and put them to sleep
    3) Put the interrupt-controllers into low-power state
    4) Go to sleep

    > As Pavel rightly said, you can get rid of the freezer, but you're
    > only going to have to implement another one that does the
    > essentially the same thing, even if it is at some other level.

    How about a freezer whose job it is to "wait for pending hard
    interrupts to complete when we have already guaranteed that we won't
    get any more"? That part should be really *REALLY* easy. You don't
    need to care about either userspace processes or kernel threads at
    all. Specifically, Step 1 consists of:

    for (dev->subdevices)

    After you've set the "no_bind" flag, you won't get any *new*
    subdevices trying to bind, therefore it's safe to iterate over the
    list of present sub-devices and suspend them. Once those are
    suspended and in low-power states you can set a "no_io" flag to
    prevent the driver from submitting more IO. At that point you can
    lazily wait for existing DMA/IO/interrupts to finish on the device,
    since *NOBODY* will be submitting them anymore, and we certainly
    aren't probing for new devices. Then you can just turn off the power
    to the device. When all the leaf devices are off, the parent device
    can be turned off because everything waiting on the leaf devices is
    blocked on them and won't unblock until the parent device *AND* the
    leaf device are turned on again, in that order.

    Scheduling and userspace are all still fully enabled in this
    scenario. Once all your devices are turned off, the only remaining
    running threads will be those which haven't done IO since the
    beginning of the suspend. We can then disable preemption, turn off
    the timer interrupts, and tell the other CPUs to park all their
    remaining threads in schedule() and sleep. Then we put the IRQ
    controller to sleep and go to sleep ourselves. If our driver model
    locking is sufficient to handle putting a parent device to sleep
    while threads are sleeping on a child device then there are exactly 0

    Resuming is basically running the whole process in reverse. Runtime-
    suspend is achieved by not setting the 'no_io' or 'no_bind' flags and
    putting selective device-subtrees to sleep without doing anything to
    the rest of the system.

    Kyle Moffett

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