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    SubjectRe: [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng 2.13-rc1
    On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 11:30:20PM +0200, Karel Zak wrote:
    > > > > The package build system is now based on autotools. The build system
    > > > > supports separate CFLAGS and LDFLAGS for suid programs (SUID_CFLAGS,
    > > > > SUID_LDFLAGS). For more details see the README file
    > > >
    > > > And this is really dumb. autotools is a completely pain in the ass and
    >
    > Well, Adrian Bunk added autotools stuff to util-linux during his work
    > on v2.13. This stuff has been fixed and stabilized in util-linux-ng
    > v2.13.
    >
    > I'm not fanatical autotools protagonist, but it seems useful in
    > util-linux. We will see...
    >
    > I'm ready to change or fix arbitrary thing in util-linux-ng, but I
    > always need a real reason -- bug report, new feature, or so. This
    > discussion is about impressions and feelings only.

    No, it's based on long, hard and painful experiences attempting to debug
    the fuckups that autoconf creates when it goes wrong.

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