Messages in this thread | | | From | Dave McCracken <> | Subject | Re: -mm merge plans -- anti-fragmentation | Date | Tue, 10 Jul 2007 09:29:45 -0500 |
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On Tuesday 10 July 2007, Mel Gorman wrote: > > Mel's page allocator work. Might merge this, but I'm still not hearing > > sufficiently convincing noises from a sufficient number of people over > > this. > > This is a long on-going story. It bounces between people who say it's not a > complete solution and everything should have the 100% ability to defragment > and the people on the other side that say it goes a long way to solving > their problem. I've cc'd some of the parties that have expressed any > interest in the last year.
I find myself wondering what "sufficiently convincing noises" are. I think we can all agree that in the current kernel order>0 allocations are a disaster. They simply aren't useable once the system fragments. I think we can also all agree that 100% defragmentation is impossible without rewriting the kernel to avoid the hard-coded virtual->physical relationship we have now.
With that said, the only remaining question I see is whether we need order>0 allocations. If we do, then Mel's patches are clearly the right thing to do. They have received a lot of testing (if just by virtue of being in -mm for so long), and have shown to greatly increase the availability of order>0 pages.
The sheer list of patches lined up behind this set is strong evidence that there are useful features which depend on a working order>0. When you add in the existing code that has to struggle with allocation failures or resort to special pools (ie hugetlbfs), I see a clear vote for the need for this patch.
Some object because order>0 will still be able to fail. I point out that order==0 can also fail, though we go to great lengths to prevent it. Mel's patches raise the success rate of order>0 to within a few percent of order==0. All this means is callers will need to decide how to handle the infrequent failure. This should be true no matter what the order.
I strongly vote for merging these patches. Let's get them in mainline where they can do some good.
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