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    SubjectRe: BUG in 2.6.22-rc2-mm1: Parts of Alsa sound architecture broken
    At Tue, 5 Jun 2007 15:25:07 +0200 (MEST),
    Jan Engelhardt wrote:
    > >> > >Well, I find the change of CONFIG_SND to menuconfig is fine, too.
    > >> > >But CONFIG_SND_PCI_DRIVERS and others don't make much sense to me.
    > >> > >How is it useful at all?
    > >> >
    > >> > Hah, I just tell you some of my own experience.
    > >> > In summer 2003, I bought the last new machine, and it got these
    > >> > shiny new ports they like to call USB. :)
    > >> > I did not have much use for it, but I left it on - you never know
    > >> > what standard next is the big win of the decade. And actually,
    > >> > it did not took long (well, summer 2005) to get my first USB device.
    > >> > Still, I am hell as sure I do not have USB-based sound devices
    > >> > anytime soon, so it would be cool to deactivate the whole usbsound
    > >> > menu at once. I think I said that in the patch description, did not I?
    > >>
    > >> But it's not cool to add an extra config item just for that, too.
    > >> And, the structure of menuconfig-if-endif is uglier than menu-endmenu.
    > >> That's why I feel a bit uneasy, although all these are a matter of
    > >> taste...
    > >
    > >Forgot to mention about another annoying drawback. Because of the new
    > >CONFIG_SND_*_DRIVERS, you'll have to re-select all belonging
    > >CONFIG_SND_*, even via config oldconfig. Putting the dependency on
    > >the top seems to reset the values defined in the old .config.
    > Well, *I* (previously) submitted patches with "default y", but Jens
    > Axboe [] disagreed heavily enough to
    > stop that practice.

    Hm, I guess Jens didn't know about this side-effect.

    When I don't set "default y", I'll be asked for each belonging item
    even though I chose "y" manually for the top config

    Strangely, setting "default y" has no this effect...

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