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    SubjectRe: Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ?
    At Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:44:42 +0200,
    Olivier Galibert wrote:
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    > On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 02:31:08PM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
    > > So, do you mean the soft-mixing is the biggest issue? That's just a
    > > part of a design issue, and if we want to go to that way, the
    > > impelemtation would be trivial, regardless on ALSA or not. Totally
    > > irrelevant argument regarding "remove ALSA".
    >
    > Soft mixing is actually the biggest issue because if you had
    > generalized soft-mixing in the kernel-visible audio ports[1] you would
    > win two things:
    >
    > - programs could use the OSS API without interfering with the ALSA one
    > or which each other
    >
    > - programs coult use the ALSA kernel API directly without interfering
    > either, which would allow alternative libalsa implementations for
    > those who hate the current one
    >
    > Frankly, mandatory libraries are extremely annoying, and mandatory
    > extremely complex overdesigned libraries are simply unbearable.

    Hm... I don't agree much with the virtual relay device solution.
    I once experimentally implemented an ALSA-OSS virtual kernel driver.
    But, it just gives more complexity.

    Yes, the library solution has merits and demerits. The library should
    have been differently designed. But, I don't think the virtual relay
    is the best solution just because you can use a bare kernel
    interface...


    Takashi
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