Messages in this thread | | | Date | Mon, 21 May 2007 15:10:20 -0400 | From | "Jon Smirl" <> | Subject | Re: [RFC] enhancing the kernel's graphics subsystem |
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On 5/21/07, Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > You are describing a transition plan without knowing what the final > > design is going to look like. We really need to hash out the final > > design so that the right path is taken to get there. > > > > For example I didn't have per CRTC device nodes or user space consoles > > in my original design, but after talking to some of the people that > > really wanted the multi-seat feature it led me down the user space > > console path and to the per CRTC device node solution. I also got beat > > up at OLS by people wanting full Unicode support on the console. > > > > No we are defining steps towards improving the drivers on Linux, the > first step is the requirement to fix suspend/resume, and allow > modesetting on multiple crtc/output combinations, the other goals are > not directly within the scope of this work, you can take steps to do > get where we want, but we don't need to move all drivers at once to > get there... we also can't just merge something like that to the > kernel... > > Your old ideas were mostly limited by the fact that you didn't get the > crtc/output distinction and persisted with the idea of heads which put > policy in the kernel, this was a major failing you never discovered, > and I didn't probably look enough at the time, since then Keith > Packard has done a lot of work on randr 1.2 to show the path to what > we actually wanted.
I thought Luc Verhaegen figured that out not Keith.
Call it whatever you want and I have wasted far too much time arguing with you and Keith and I can never get agreement on anything. BTW, should I search the LKML archives and find the messages where you call me stupid and block my patches merging fbdev/DRM? That's effectively what you are doing right now.
There is a significant group of Linux users who want to be able to login separate users to each screen/head/crtc/output device. These people are concentrated in the third world and don't show up at OLS to argue their case.
There is another group that wants Unicode consoles. The people I talked to were from India and Japan.
I am not a member of either group. So go ahead and ignore me, I'd just like to see these two groups get features implemented that have been ignored for a long time.
> > Dave. >
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