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Subject[RFC] enhancing the kernel's graphics subsystem
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(Sorry the first two are slightly too big for lkml; they're against the
DRM tree at git://

In collaboration with the FB guys, we've been working on enhancing the
kernel's graphics subsystem in an attempt to bring some sanity to the
Linux graphics world and avoid the situation we have now where several
kernel and userspace drivers compete for control of graphics devices.

In the interest of getting some early feedback, I thought I'd post a
description of how we've structured things so far, along with some of
the early code, to get some feedback on the direction.

Why in the kernel?

There are several reasons to pull modesetting and proper multihead
support into the kernel:
- suspend/resume
- debugging (e.g. panic)
- non-X uses
- more reliable VT switch
Each of the above is covered in more detail below.


Currently, the kernel has to rely on an external application (X,
vbetool, etc.), or worse, ACPI, to reset video devices to the proper
state after resume. If one of these systems has trouble or crashes
during or shortly after resume, the system will become unusable, with
little indication as to why (see Debugging below). Putting code into
the kernel to perform low level modesetting (i.e. without video BIOS
support) will allow the kernel to resume to the correct mode
automatically and more quickly than would be possible otherwise.


As mentioned above, if something goes wrong with modesetting during
resume, the user has very little indication of where things went wrong.
Likewise, if a panic or oops occurs while an application like X is
running, the user will experience a hard hang, rather than the much
more pleasant "blue penguin of death" (to be coded). With kernel
modesetting support, the kernel should be able to display panic and
oops messages directly on the console, even if a graphical application
is running, since it would have awareness of the current mode, display
depth, pitch, and other variables needed to display output. Another
possibility is multihead debugging: one display could run the user's
applications (i.e. a "normal" display) while a secondary display could
run a system level debugger, allowing the user to stop the machine,
investigate memory, step through programs, etc. (admittedly this is
somewhat far fetched).

Non-X uses

As it stands, non-X based applications wanting to use video devices have
two options: either take over the hardware themselves or use the
existing kernel fb layer. The former is obviously a tall order given
the complexity of current graphics devices, while the latter isn't
featureful enough to expose multiple outputs, perform per-device
locking so that multiple clients can share the device, etc. A kernel
based modsetting and multihead API would make developing such
applications much easier.

VT switch

Currently, the kernel relies on an external program to restore the
graphics state when a VT switch occurs. This doesn't always work, with
similar results to the suspend/resume case: an apparently hung or
unusable machine. Of course, the kernel can't unconditionally preempt
the graphics device to set a new mode, but having modesetting in the
kernel will give it a much better chance of coordinating with the DRM
command dispatch code to find a good time to set a new mode.


With the above patches, the kernel DRM layer manages the output devices,
available modes, and calls into the low level DRM drivers to set modes
and probe outputs devices for attached displays, much like the X
server's internal RandR 1.2 APIs. It also provides userspace with an
interface to these functions (Jakob based these APIs on the X server's
Randr extension, but there are differences).

DRM/FB cooperation

Another major factor to consider when enhancing modesetting in the
kernel is DRM and FB cooperation. Currently, FB isn't aware of DRM
drivers, and DRM is only minimally aware of FB (such that it can bind
to PCI devices even after FB drivers have already done so). As a
result, any modesetting done by either layer results in memory
allocation that may not be honored by the other side (and/or the X
server, which has its own idea of how memory is being used). To
properly address interoperability, both the FB and DRM layers need to
share a common memory manager, common suspend/resume code, and common
modesetting code. In addition, applications must use these layers in
some way to avoid conflicts (e.g. X should call into the DRM or FB
layers to do memory allocation).

What about the FB layer?

Today, the FB layer is really only well aware of a single head, and
doesn't do full EDID parsing, therefore its knowledge of available
modes is limited. On the plus side, it's able to fetch EDID data where
possible and generate modes using the VESA CVT specification.

In kernel APIs

The kernel APIs are broken up into several parts, as documented in
drm_crtc.h. There are two sets of callbacks that a driver must
implement to fully support the model, one for the driver's CRTC(s), and
one for its supported outputs.

Userland APIs

DRM_IOCTL_MODE_GETCRTC - get info about a given CRTC
DRM_IOCTL_MODE_GETOUTPUT - get info about a given output
DRM_IOCTL_MODE_ADDFB - add a new FB object
DRM_IOCTL_MODE_RMFB - remove an FB object
DRM_IOCTL_MODE_GETFB - get info about an FB object

Notes on the current codebase

The current codebase is still incomplete in many ways: locking needs to
be (re-)added around our various list manipulation paths, we need
better initial configuration logic, only the Intel driver has any
support (and it's still missing suspend/resume and accelerated FB
functions), we need to check modes against monitor limitations (which
come from EDID or the user), CVT and GTF based mode generation still
isn't used by the DRM modesetting code, and much more. I'm hoping that
by posting this now, we can get some ideas about what requirements
other people have for graphics on Linux so we can prioritize our work.

And of course, large chunks of this code came from X.Org's modesetting
and Intel driver code, but it should all be marked with the proper
copyrights and licenses if it wasn't written from scratch.

Comments, questions, suggestions?

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