Messages in this thread | | | From | Sergei Organov <> | Subject | Re: somebody dropped a (warning) bomb | Date | Tue, 13 Feb 2007 22:59:29 +0300 |
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Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> writes: > On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, Sergei Organov wrote: >> > >> > "I want a char of indeterminate sign"! >> >> I'm afraid I don't follow. Do we have a way to say "I want an int of >> indeterminate sign" in C? The same way there doesn't seem to be a way >> to say "I want a char of indeterminate sign". > > You're wrong.
Sure, I knew it from the very beginning ;)
> > Exactly because "char" *by*definition* is "indeterminate sign" as far as > something like "strlen()" is concerned.
Thanks, I now understand that you either don't see the difference between "indeterminate" and "implementation-defined" in this context or consider it non-essential, so I think I've got your point.
> "char" is _special_. Char is _different_. Char is *not* "int".
Sure.
> >> So no, strlen() doesn't actually say that, no matter if we like it or >> not. It actually says "I want a char with implementation-defined sign". > > You're arguing some strange semantic difference in the English > language.
Didn't I further explain what I meant exactly (that you've skipped)? OK, never mind.
> I'm not really interested.
OK, no problem.
> > THE FACT IS, THAT "strlen()" IS DEFINED UNIVERSALLY AS TAKING "char *".
So just don't pass it "unsigned char*". End of story.
> > That BY DEFINITION means that "strlen()" cannot care about the sign, > because the sign IS NOT DEFINED UNIVERSALLY! > > And if you cannot accept that fact, it's your problem. Not mine.
I never had problems either with strlen() or with this warning, so was curious why does the warning is such a problem for the kernel. I'm sorry I took your time and haven't got an answer that I entirely agree with. Thank you very much for your explanations anyway.
> The warning is CRAP. End of story.
Amen!
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