Messages in this thread | | | Date | Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:33:19 +0200 | From | Marcel Siegert <> | Subject | Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24 |
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Markus Rechberger schrieb: > On 10/11/07, Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net> wrote: >> Markus Rechberger a écrit : >>> On 10/11/07, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote: >>>> As such, the old and decrepit em28xx driver seems more useful to people, >>>> since at least it supports the limited set of hardware on its own. >>> it does not since it's broken and feature limited. On the other side >> I have a device which works perfectly with it if you add the vendor and >> product ID to the list. I don't really call that broken. And it doesn't >> need a firmware. >> > > Aurelien, > > the device you're using is around 2 years old. You're one of the lucky > ones, I have tonns of support mails in my mail account from people who > own almost a similar device but with different videodecoders which are > not fully supported in the kernel or which worked and got broken > during the time. > It took me around 4 hours to debug such an issue last years remotly > with an enduser (which includes that noone cared to ask me if I'm fine > with such an update, neither did someone ask people who own such > devices that they should test the changes). > Please also take other devices and upcoming devices into account, > since i'm willing to spend that time and since I'm in contact with > various companies who provide several components of those devices. > >> Please think that a lot of persons do not have enough knowledge to >> compile out of tree drivers, and that a lot more do not even know about >> this out of tree driver. >> > > this is what all is about, the project does not depend on certain > broken drivers anymore. And people who initially disagreed without > having any solution nor contributed any code can continue to play > their game without having an impact on that driver anymore. > > Markus
markus,
its the same old story you are telling over and over again.
of course there might be a huge community builded up the last month @ mcentral, of course your driver supports newer devices,
BUT
the same old story is - and you always miss that part
we discussed a lot on your changes and also ACCEPTED those for merging, if you would have changed your UNNECCESSARY touching of dvb-core. its proven that things could work without that nacked change to dvb core. but, you decided to stop discussion then, and went away to perform your own tree/userspace thing.
as linus and andrew stated within this thread they think they will not merge your code like it is cause of different reasons, i am wondering a bit whats your next step is.
regards marcel
ps. as linus tells from time to time "It's not just black and white - there's also grey"
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