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SubjectRe: [PATCH 2.6.18-rc5] PCI: sort device lists breadth-first
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 11:56:39AM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 10:14:22PM -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
> > Problem:
> > New Dell PowerEdge servers have 2 embedded ethernet ports, which are
> > labeled NIC1 and NIC2 on the chassis, in the BIOS setup screens, and
> > in the printed documentation. Assuming no other add-in ethernet ports
> > in the system, Linux 2.4 kernels name these eth0 and eth1
> > respectively. Many people have come to expect this naming. Linux 2.6
> > kernels name these eth1 and eth0 respectively (backwards from
> > expectations). I also have reports that various Sun and HP servers
> > have similar behavior.
> This came up years back when 2.6 was something new, and the answer
> then was 'bind the interface to the MAC address'.

Both Red Hat-based distros and openSuSE-based distros do something
like this with configuration files automatically. Red Hat's
anaconda/kudzu puts the HWADDR lines in the generated
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* files. openSuSE's udev rules
puts lines in /etc/udev/rules.d/30-net_persistent_names.rules the
first time it discovers a new interface. Both methods are intended to
maintain a persistent name for each NIC, after being set up the first
time. Neither deals well with replacing one NIC with another - you
must edit the config files.

This works pretty well post-install. It doesn't work well at install
time, all the installers use the kernel's original names, and then
those names become the persistent names in the config files.

> Whilst your patch will fix the case that's currently broken (2.4->2.6),
> doesn't it offer equal possibility to break existing setups when people move
> from <=2.6.18 -> 2.6.19 ?

If they're using config files / udev rules as suggested, it shouldn't
break them.

If they're not, then yes, this could. Debian's
/etc/network/interfaces file allows use of hwaddr fields, though by
default it doesn't appear anything sets it up.

I'm open to suggestions on how *not* to break setups that don't use
the MAC addresses.


Matt Domsch
Software Architect
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