Messages in this thread | | | Subject | Re: GPLv3 Position Statement | From | Sergey Panov <> | Date | Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:05:44 -0400 |
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On Wed, 2006-09-27 at 21:13 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Wed, 27 Sep 2006, Sergey Panov wrote: > > > > I hope you understand that "Passionate Moderate" is an oxymoron. > > No. It's a joke. > > But it's a sad, serious, one. You really don't want it explained to you. > It's too painful. > > > And I do not believe RMS is a commie! > > Ehh. Nobody called him a commie. > > I said he was an extremist (and tastes differ, but I think most people > would agree). And he _has_ written a manifesto. I'm not kidding. Really. > > "How soon they forget.." >
I appreciate it was not : "Ein Gespenst geht um in Europa ... "
> One thing that I have realized during some of these discussions is that a > _lot_ of people have literally grown up during all the "Open Source" > years, and really don't know anything about rms, GNU, or the reason Open > Source split from Free Software. > > I'm feeling like an old fart, just because I still remember the BSD > license wars, and rms' manifesto, and all this crap. > > For you young whippersnappers out there, let me tell you how it was when I > was young.. >
FYI: I am using (in/on my home network) nothing but YOUR kernel with GNU tools since 1993. I was A PhD student at the unnamed US university at that time.
> We had to walk uphill both ways > > [ "In snow! Five feet deep!" > "No! Ten feet!" > "Calm down boys, I'm telling the story" ] > > And we had all these rabid GPL haters that were laughing at us, and > telling us you could never make software under the GPL because none of the > commercial people would ever touch it and all programmers need to eat and > feed their kids.. > > [ "Tell them about when you killed a grizzly bear with your teeth, > gramps!" > > "Shh, Tommy, that's a different story, shush now" ]
It is nice to know you are not aware of the "grizzly? no, dushily" Russian jock, people in Republic of Georgia might not appreciate.
> And Richard Stallman wrote a manifesto. > > Thank God we still have google. "GNU manifesto" still finds it.
www.gnu.org/gnu/manifesto.html. The funniest sentence is the first one: "... the complete Unix-compatible software system which I am writing so that I can give it away free to everyone who can use it."
> > To me he is quite a moderate figure > > I'd hate to meet the people you call extreme.
You are a happy individual from a happy country. Some of us were unfortunate to be bourn in a less friendly environment.
> > (very strong principals and no diplomatic skills at all, but it does not > > mean he is an extremist). > > I have nothing funny to say here. > > I was going to make a joke about the principals, but that's just low. It's > "principle". A "principal" is something totally different. > > Anyway, I'd clearly in need of a drink, as all my "mad debating skillz" > are clearly leaving me, and I just find myself making all these silly > comments. > > Linus
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