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SubjectRe: [PATCHSET] Announce: High-res timers, tickless/dyntick and dynamic HZ
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Mark,

On Mon, 2006-06-19 at 14:58 -0700, mark gross wrote:
> I'm just giving this a test spin now on my desktop boot. looking at uptime and cat /proc/interrupts
> ~/work> uptime;cat /proc/interrupts
> 2:51pm up 0:28, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.08
> CPU0
> 0: 80007 XT-PIC timer
> 1: 1776 XT-PIC i8042
> 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade
> 8: 2 XT-PIC rtc
> 9: 0 XT-PIC acpi
> 11: 2156 XT-PIC eth0
> 12: 2879 XT-PIC i8042
> 14: 20402 XT-PIC ide0
> 15: 11 XT-PIC ide1
> NMI: 0
> LOC: 0
> ERR: 0
> MIS: 0
>
> or about 47.6 timer's a second.
>
> This system is mostly idle, is this about right or should I expect even fewer timer ticks?

We did not track down all culprits of useless timer schedules, but there
are definitely a couple of user space programs which we identified, e.g.
redhat network, debian and ubuntu updates applets and similar
candidates.

> Is there a way to see timer stats?

Enable timer stats in the kernel config

$ echo start >/proc/timer_input
$ do nothing for a while
$ cat /proc/timer_info

You get something like:

Function counter - Timer Top v0.9.9
collection period: 19.7 seconds
1 0 swapper verify_tsc_freq (verify_tsc_freq)
1 6 events/0 do_cache_clean (delayed_work_timer_fn)
1 0 swapper i8042_interrupt (i8042_timer_func)
2 0 swapper neigh_periodic_timer (neigh_periodic_timer)
2 148 pdflush wb_kupdate (wb_timer_fn)
1 1 swapper init_tsc_clocksource (verify_tsc_freq)
4 6 events/0 cache_reap (delayed_work_timer_fn)
1 2508 sh get_transaction (commit_timeout)
1 0 swapper page_writeback_init (wb_timer_fn)
4 1 init schedule_timeout (process_timeout)
9 0 swapper e100_watchdog (e100_watchdog)
9 0 swapper dev_watchdog (dev_watchdog)
6 1 swapper schedule_delayed_work_on (delayed_work_timer_fn)
1 1 swapper neigh_table_init_no_netlink (neigh_periodic_timer)
1 1 swapper i8042_probe (i8042_timer_func)
3 3317 bash schedule_timeout (process_timeout)
1 2973 ifconfig e100_up (e100_watchdog)
1 0 swapper __netdev_watchdog_up (dev_watchdog)
4 893 kirqd schedule_timeout (process_timeout)
5 0 swapper tty_flip_buffer_push (delayed_work_timer_fn)

repeat over time to find the tick wasters.

Also:

$ cat /proc/stat | grep nohz

gives you some stats about the idle state

nohz cpu0 I:37390 S:30025 T:2108551 A:70 E: 26891
nohz cpu1 I:15480 S:12614 T:2109231 A:49 E: 14508
nohz total I:52870 S:42639 T:4217782 A:98 E:41399

where:

I: number of idle calls
S: number of idle calls, which can sleep for at least one tick
T: total time (in tick units) slept in idle calls
A: average sleep time per "can sleep" idle call (in tick units)
E: number of timer interrupt events


You might also try to slow down the timer wheel activity by batching the
timeouts into multiples of the scheduler tick (HZ) by doing

$ echo $FACTOR >/proc/sys/kernel/timeout_granularity

e.g.
FACTOR=10 batches the timer wheel timers to 10ms on a HZ=1000 kernel
FACTOR=20 batches the timer wheel timers to 40ms on a HZ=250 kernel
.....

> FWIW Its nice to see this stuff start getting real.

Thanks,

tglx


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