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    SubjectRe: I2C_PCA_ISA causes boot delays (was re: sis96x compiled in by error: delay of one minute at boot)
    Hi Etienne, Ian:

    Etienne: sorry for the delay... I have't forgotten about you.

    Recap for Ian: Etienne was suffering very long delays at boot time due
    to some combination of I2C / hwmon drivers built-in (not modular) to
    his kernel.

    * Etienne Lorrain <> [2006-03-21 00:00:37 +0100]:
    > --- "Mark M. Hoffman" wrote:
    > > * Etienne Lorrain [2006-03-16 11:53:32 +0100]:
    > > > I did not built with all hwmon drivers because I could determine what I
    > > > had on my mainboard.
    > >
    > > Really? If you don't have all the hwmon drivers built in, then I'm not
    > > sure how the i2c subsystem could take so long to init. Can we see the
    > > entire kernel config please?
    > That is the real 2.6.16 with only CONFIG_I2C_VIAPRO=y (the only I2C module loaded
    > using Knoppix on my motherboard) (full .config attached):

    OK: you didn't have all the hwmon/sensors drivers built in, just seven of
    them. ;) This really is not a good idea. In an ideal world, these drivers
    would notice that the hardware is not present and move on. But I2C/SMBus is
    not like PCI. There is no single ID to read and test. This hardware is only
    recognized based on heuristics. And the probing itself takes time: especially
    if you have a very slow I2C bus. More on that later...

    > 885c885
    > < # CONFIG_I2C_PCA_ISA is not set
    > ---
    > > CONFIG_I2C_PCA_ISA=y

    This alone is the cause of the delay. (I have confirmed it by running some
    similar .configs here.) You almost certainly don't own this specialized
    piece of hardware. Worse still, that particular driver has no code to detect
    whether or not the hardware is present. I cc'ed the listed driver author
    (Ian) just in case this might be corrected... but I guess there is no way
    to fix it.

    So the delay is (1) an I2C bus driver that is not actually present, trying to
    probe for (2) seven different sensors chip drivers that certainly aren't present
    on the nonexistent bus. Timeouts ensue.

    So unless Ian knows a better way to detect that bus driver... the best I can
    advise is to *not* build in those drivers for hardware that you do not have.


    Mark M. Hoffman

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