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    SubjectRe: [PATCH 1/4] Virtualization/containers: introduction
    >>> We are never going to form a consensus if all of the people doing 
    >>> implementations don't talk.
    >> Speaking of which - it would be interesting to get Kirill's
    >> comments on Eric's patchset ;)
    I'll do comment.

    >> Once we know what's good and bad about both patchsets, we'll
    >> be a lot closer to knowing what exactly should go upstream.
    I'm starting to think that nothing in upstream can be better for all of
    us :)

    > Let's compare approaches of patchsets before the patchsets themselves.
    > It seems to be, should we:
    > A) make a general form of virtualising PIDs, and hope this assists
    > later virtualisation efforts (Eric's patch)
    > B) make a general form of containers/jails/vservers/vpses, and layer
    > PID virtualisation on top of it somewhere (as in openvz, vserver)
    > I can't think of any real use cases where you would specifically want A)
    > without B).
    Exactly! All these patches for A) look weird for me without containers
    itself. A try to make half-solution which is bad.

    > Also, the problem space in B) is now very well explored. To start with
    > A) would mean to throw away 4+ years of experience at this approach
    > (just counting vserver and variants - not FreeBSD Jail, etc). Trying to
    > re-base B) atop a massive refactoring and new patch like A) would incur
    > a lot of work; however fitting it into B) is natural and solved
    > conceptually and in practice, with the only drawback I see being that
    > the use cases mentioned above wouldn't suffer from the side-effects of
    > B).
    Have you saw my patches?
    This is B) :) This is what we should start with IMHO.
    Having a containers and isolation all these talks about A) will be much
    more precise.


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