Messages in this thread | | | Date | Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:30:01 +0000 | From | Russell King <> | Subject | Re: [KORG] Re: kernel.org lies about latest -mm kernel |
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On Sat, Dec 16, 2006 at 11:30:34AM -0800, J.H. wrote: > The problem has been hashed over quite a bit recently, and I would be > curious what you would consider the real problem after you see the > situation.
One thing which isn't helping you is the way folk inevitably end up using ftp.kernel.org rather than ftp.<cc>.kernel.org. [*]
Let me illustrate why. Throw http://ftp.uk.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel into a web browser. The address changes to:
http://ftp.uk.kernel.org/sites/ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/
Hit reload a few times, and eventually be greated by:
Forbidden You don't have permission to access /sites/ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/ on this server.
because one of the IPs which "ftp.uk.kernel.org" resolves to isn't a part of the UK mirror service (who are providing most of ftp.uk.kernel.org), and therefore has a different site policy.
Ergo, downloads via http from ftp.uk.kernel.org are at best unreliable for multiple requests.
I agree that it's not directly your problem, and isn't something you have direct control over. However, if you want to round-robin the <cc>.kernel.org IP addresses between different providers, I suggest that either the name resolves to just one site, or that kernel.org adopts a policy with their mirrors that they only become part of the <cc>.kernel.org DNS entries as long as they do not rewrite their site-specific URLs in terms of that address.
IOW, that URL above should've been:
http://hawking-if-b.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/
to ensure that mirrorservice.org's policy isn't uselessly applied to someone elses mirror site.
Maybe then ftp.<cc>.kernel.org would become slightly more attractive.
* - I gave up with ftp.uk.kernel.org many years ago when it became unreliable and haven't looked back, despite recent news that it's improved. But as illustrated above it does still have issues. I certainly would _not_ want to use ftp.uk.linux.org to obtain GIT updates from as long as the current DNS situation persists - that would be suicide.
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