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SubjectRe: Re: Re: 2.6.19-rc5: known regressions :SMP kernel can not generate ISA irq

On Fri, 10 Nov 2006, Komuro wrote:
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> I tried the 2.6.19-rc5, the problem still happens.

Ok, that's good data, and especially:

> But,
> I remove the disable_irq_nosync() , enable_irq()
> from the linux/drivers/net/pcmcia/axnet_cs.c
> the interrupt is generated properly.

All RIGHT. That's a very good clue. The major difference between PCI and
ISA irq's is that they have different trigger types (they also have
different polarity, but that tends to be just a small detail). In
particular, ISA IRQ's are edge-triggered, and PCI IRQ's are level-
triggered.

Now, edge-triggered interrupts are a _lot_ harder to mask, because the
Intel APIC is an unbelievable piece of sh*t, and has the edge-detect logic
_before_ the mask logic, so if a edge happens _while_ the device is
masked, you'll never ever see the edge ever again (unmasking will not
cause a new edge, so you simply lost the interrupt).

So when you "mask" an edge-triggered IRQ, you can't really mask it at all,
because if you did that, you'd lose it forever if the IRQ comes in while
you masked it. Instead, we're supposed to leave it active, and set a flag,
and IF the IRQ comes in, we just remember it, and mask it at that point
instead, and then on unmasking, we have to replay it by sending a
self-IPI.

Maybe that part got broken by some of the IRQ changes by Eric.

Eric, can you please double-check this all? I suspect you disable
edge-triggered interrupts when moving them, or something, and maybe you
didn't realize that if you disable them on the IO-APIC level, they can be
gone forever.

[ Note: this is true EVEN IF we are in the interrupt handler right then -
if we get another edge while in the interrupt handler, the interrupt
will normally be _delayed_ until we've ACK'ed it, but if we have
_masked_ it, it will simply be lost entirely. So a simple "mask"
operation is always incorrect for edge-triggered interrupts.

One option might be to do a simple mask, and on unmask, turn the edge
trigger into a level trigger at the same time. Then, the first time you
get the interrupt, you turn it back into an edge trigger _before_ you
call the interrupt handlers. That might actually be simpler than doing
the "irq replay" dance with self-IPI, because we can't actually just
fake the IRQ handling - when enable_irq() is called, irq's are normally
disabled on the CPU, so we can't just call the irq handler at that
point: we really do need to "replay" the dang thing.

Did I mention that the Intel APIC's are a piece of cr*p already? ]

> So I think enable_irq does not enable the irq.

It probably does enable it (that's the easy part), but see above: if any
of the support structure for the APIC crapola is subtly broken, we'll have
lost the IRQ anyway.

(Many other IRQ controllers get this right: the "old and broken" Intel
i8259 interrupt controller was a much better IRQ controller than the APIC
in this regard, because it simply had the edge-detect logic after the
masking logic, so if you unmasked an active interrupt that had been
masked, you would always see it as an edge, and the i8259 controller needs
none of the subtle code at _all_. It just works.)

Anyway, if you _can_ bisect the exact point where this started happening,
that would be good. But I would not be surprised in the least if this is
all introduced by Eric Biedermans dynamic IRQ handling.

Eric?

Linus
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