Messages in this thread | | | From | Alistair John Strachan <> | Subject | Re: [2.6 patch] schedule obsolete OSS drivers for removal | Date | Tue, 3 Jan 2006 17:16:13 +0000 |
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On Tuesday 03 January 2006 17:03, Olivier Galibert wrote: > On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 04:29:21PM +0000, Alistair John Strachan wrote: > > This has nothing to do with the kernel option CONFIG_SND_OSSEMUL which > > Jan referred to, and to which I was responding. "aoss" is also not > > compatible with every conceivable program. > > Especially not with plugins. Flashplayer anybody?
Konqueror manages to "wrap" plugins quite happily.. complain to whoever makes your browser.
> > This is exactly why the OSS emulation option in ALSA is really a last > > resort and should not be an excuse for people to ignore implementing ALSA > > support directly. More so, it is very good justification for ditching > > "everything OSS" as soon as possible, at least in new software. > > Actually the crappy state of OSS emulation is a good reason to ditch > ALSA in its current implementation. As Linus reminded not so long > ago, backwards compatibility is extremely important.
This argument is basically watered down with devfs, udev, sysfs, etc. which all have exactly the same issues. Should a crippled OSS API be the way forward for Linux? I think not.
> Also, not everybody wants to depend on a shared library. I find this > "the alsa lib must be kept in lockstep with the kernel version" quite > annoying. I'd rather not have the windows dll hell on linux, TYVM. > Or in other words, the public API of a kernel interface should _NEVER_ > be a library only. At least OSS, with all its issues, had that right.
Okay, I agree it's not ideal. But if you want software mixing, and it's a genuinely useful feature, you either have to go down the road of running some crappy daemon like arts or esound, or just link against libasound and get it for free. I know I'd rather not have mixing routines in my kernel, thanks.
-- Cheers, Alistair.
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