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SubjectRe: I request inclusion of SAS Transport Layer and AIC-94xx into the kernel
Luben Tuikov wrote:
> On 09/29/05 03:44, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
>
>>a spec describes how the hw works... how we do the sw piece is up to
>>us ;)
>
>
> Arjan, I'll be your best friend here:
> Never say this in public or in an intervew.

It's hard-earned experience. We constantly have to teach hardware
vendors how to write good drivers.

At some point you have to step away from the spec, and ask yourself what
makes sense for Linux. I've already had to poke T10 when they put silly
things in the SAT spec.

As a tangent, I already have a design for a Linux filesystem that makes
use of SCSI object-based storage (to James's horror, no doubt :)). It's
a fun thing to ponder.


> Hardware folks needs to work with software folks and
> software folks need to work with hardware folks.

Certainly. The historical disconnect is where hardware vendors tend to
presume They Know Best, when in reality it needs to be an equal
tradeoff. Hardware vendors must admit they don't know Linux, and Linux
developers must admit that hardware vendors know their own hardware
better than anyone else.

Jeff


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