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    SubjectRe: dmesg verbosity [was Re: AGP bogosities]
    On Mon, 14 Mar 2005, Lee Revell wrote:

    > On Mon, 2005-03-14 at 19:12 +0100, Diego Calleja wrote:
    >> Why should people look at all that "horrid" debug info everytime
    >> they boot, except when they have a problem?
    > I'm really not trolling, but I suspect if we made the boot process less
    > verbose, people would start to wonder more about why Linux takes so much
    > longer than XP to boot.

    two things

    1. linux shouldn't take longer to boot then windows (and if properly
    configured it doesn't)

    2. there's a _long_ way between the current situation where a driver can
    spew 500+ lines of logging and there being so little logging that people
    don't know what's going on.

    if you are on a slow console (say a serial console) just letting the boot
    messages scroll by can take quite a while today.

    David Lang

    There are two ways of constructing a software design. One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies. And the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies.
    -- C.A.R. Hoare
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