[lkml]   [2005]   [Nov]   [9]   [last100]   RSS Feed
Views: [wrap][no wrap]   [headers]  [forward] 
Messages in this thread
SubjectRe: merge status

On Wed, 9 Nov 2005, James Bottomley wrote:
> > If that keeps happening, I think I'll just make sure that I don't always
> > merge on the last day or two. Just to make sure that submaintainers don't
> > "game" the system the wrong way. Maybe my "two weeks" are sometimes just
> > ten days long, who knows..
> That's a nice theory, except that it's my contributors who drop me in it
> by leaving their patch sets until you declare a kernel, dumping the
> integration testing on me in whatever time window is left.

My point is that if that keeps on happening, then you miss the window, and
are hopefully ready EARLY next time around, four weeks later, when the
next window opens.

And if your submaintainers keep screwing _you_, then you tell them to stop
it, and stop accepting their patches in that window, so that it's _their_
code that gets delayed, not yours.

The development SHOULD NOT happen during the merge window. The development
should have happened in the tree you wait to merge /while waiting/ for the
window to open.

If you're doing the development during the merge window, not only do you
get in late in the window, you also do a hurried job and thus almost
certainly have a worse process.

The whole point of having timely merge windows is that we _can_ just say
"sorry, you missed the bus, wait for the next one".

And trust me, I _will_ say that. People always complain that I'm being too
soft. Not so this time. If people miss the merge window or start abusing
it with hurried last-minute things that just cause problems for -rc1, I'll
just refuse to merge, and laugh in their faces derisively when they whine
plaintively at me, and tell them there's going to be a new opening soon

If two weeks of merge window is too short, maybe the four weeks _between_
the windows is long enough to sort things out.

To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to
More majordomo info at
Please read the FAQ at

 \ /
  Last update: 2009-11-18 23:46    [W:0.061 / U:2.776 seconds]
©2003-2018 Jasper Spaans|hosted at Digital Ocean and TransIP|Read the blog|Advertise on this site