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    SubjectRe: [linux-pm] [RFC] userland swsusp
    On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 08:10:19AM -0800, Gross, Mark wrote:
    > I worry that this is just adding more thrash to a historically unstable
    > implementation. How long do we users have to wait for a swsusp
    > implementation where we don't have to worry about breaking from one
    > kernel release to the next?

    Never, you are hereby consigned to always have a broken swsusp
    implementation on your machines.

    There, feel better? Or perhaps you could join in and help with the
    current effort to make things better...

    > I agree with this post http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/9/15/125 and note that
    > making too large of a change thrashes the users a lot and if it doesn't
    > solve a real problem or enable something critical, why make the changes?

    Ok, so you are happy with what we currently have in the kernel tree
    today? Great, use that, I know it works for me and I'm happy with it...

    Please, everyone realize that Nigel's code is not going to be merged
    into mainline as it is today. He knows it, and everyone else involved
    knows it. Nigel also knows the proper procedure for getting his changes
    into mainline, if he so desires, as we all sat in a room last July and
    discussed this (lwn.net has a summary somewhere about it too...)

    So, here's Pavel trying to make things better and people are complaining
    about it. Argue that the technical points are invalid (like Dave did.)
    But don't just sit around and kvetch, that doesn't help out anyone.

    thanks,

    greg k-h
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