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    SubjectRe: starting with 2.7
    On 5 Jan 2005, at 14:31, Helge Hafting wrote:

    > Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote:
    >> I don't pretend that kernel interfaces stay written in stone, for
    >> ages. What I would like is that, at least, those interfaces were
    >> stable enough, let's say for a few months for a stable kernel series,
    >> so I don't have to keep bothering my propietary VMWare vendor to fix
    >> the problems for me, since the new kernel interface broke VMWare.
    >> Yeah, I know I could decide not to upgrade kernels in last instance,
    >> but that's not always possible.
    > You should definitely bother your proprietary vendor all the time,
    > they will then
    > see more clearly that they have to act fast _if_ they want to stay
    > proprietary.

    I do bother them, but they try at its best to fix things, and they do.
    They are propietary, and neither me nor anyone can force them to change
    their minds.

    >> If kernel interfaces need to be changed for whatever reason, change
    >> them in 2.7, -mm, -ac or whatever tree first, and let the community
    >> know beforehand what those changes will be, and be prepared to adapt.
    >> Meanwhile, try to leave 2.6 as stable as possible.
    > Do you follow -mm, -ac, and friends closely? Most changes do happen
    > in -mm first.
    > So you have time, all the way up to the next release. Use that time
    > to bug your
    > vendor about the imminent change. There seems to be weeks between
    > releases
    > now, plenty of time for a vendor to stay up-to-date.

    I try to follow -mm releases closely, but as someone said, the
    ChangeLog is extremely dense for me to try to understand what's going
    on deeply.

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