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    SubjectRe: [ANNOUNCE] Release Digsig 1.3.1: kernel module for run-time authentication of binaries

    Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
    > Quoting Chris Wright (
    >>* Makan Pourzandi ( wrote:
    > ...
    >>>We realized that when a shared library is opened by a binary it can
    >>>still be modified. To solve the problem, we block the write access to
    >>>the shared binary while it is loaded.
    >>AFAICT, this means anybody with read access to a file can block all
    >>writes. This doesn't sound great.
    > True.

    I want to narrow down the discussion, I believe that some people could
    get confused with the mention of "file" here. AFAICT, the above problem
    only concerns the shared libraries. Digsig applies only to binaries: in
    digsig_file_mmap() implementing the file_mmap LSM hook, if the file is
    not executable there is a return and no verification or any other
    blocking is done.

    For executables, there is no meaning to load them on read mode, you
    should have execute permission. if you then load them for execution
    IMHO, it makes sense to block the writing on that file.

    For shared libraries, you're right. the problem exists, the shared
    libraries can be loaded being only readable (even though I remember
    reading in exec.c:sys_uselib() kernel that the shared libraries
    must be both readable and executable due to "security reasons", but I'm
    not an expert and definitely readable is enough to load the shared
    library but I'll be happy to learn more about this.)

    > This could be fixed by adding a check at the top of dsi_file_mmap for
    > file->f_dentry->d_inode->i_mode & MAY_EXEC. Of course then shared
    > libraries which are installed without execute permissions will cause
    > apps to break. On my quick test, I couldn't run xterm or vi :)
    > Note that blocking writes requires that the file be a valid ELF file,
    > as this is all that digsig mediates. So I'm not sure which we worry
    > about more - the fact that all shared libraries have to be installed
    > with execute permissions (under the proposed solution), or that write

    My 2 cents, a quick browsing on my machine (fedora core 1) shows that
    almost all my shared libraries are installed with both execution and
    read permissions. IMHO, I don't believe then that this should be
    considered as a major issue.

    > to an ELF file can be prevented by mmap(PROT_EXEC). Presumably, if


    > you are replacing an ELF file, you will always want to do
    > "mv; cp new/" anyway.
    > Thoughts?
    > thanks,
    > -serge


    Makan Pourzandi, Open Systems Lab
    Ericsson Research, Montreal, Canada
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