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    SubjectRe: udev is too slow creating devices
    On Sep 19, 2004, at 15:40, Ihar 'Philips' Filipau wrote:
    > You are wrong. Hardware driver must fail, when hardware is not
    > present/not detected. Simple as that.
    > If ide-cd doesn't do that - it needs to be fixed.

    I have a USB CD burner, and during startup I make sure that the USB
    and SCSI modules are already loaded to speed up the CD recognition.
    With your procedure I _can't_ do that. First I try to modprobe the USB
    stuff, which works. Then I try to modprobe the SCSI stuff, which
    because the burner isn't plugged in yet and it sees no SCSI devices.

    How does that make sense? Hardware is not serialized nicely the
    way you seem to want it to be. I expect to be able to plug in my 2 USB
    disks, my USB burner, and my USB scanner into the USB hub that I
    just plugged in, either before turning on the computer, halfway through
    startup, or after I've been working for 2 hours and not have the whole
    damn mess fail because one of the devices is _only_ initialized in the
    init scripts. The best way to handle this is /etc/dev.d. If some
    is critical for startup, then just add a "touch
    /var/run/criticalsystem" to
    the specialized dev.d script and then have the init script poll for said
    file to become more recent than system startup. It's not like polling
    will hurt you in that case, if the device really is system-critical
    then you
    can't do anything _but_ poll and hope that the hardware isn't fubared.

    Kyle Moffett

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