Messages in this thread | | | Date | Fri, 08 Oct 2004 06:48:20 -0700 | From | Bruce Ferrell <> | Subject | Re: Possible GPL Violation of Linux in Amstrad's E3 Videophone |
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Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 08 October 2004 03:15, Jon Masters wrote: > >>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>Hash: SHA1 >> >>jmerkey@galt.devicelogics.com wrote: >> >>[ Would you please quite removing the attribution from mailing list >>posts? I know you don't care to keep it in the kernel, but at least >>let people know who said what in this completely pointless >>thread... ] >> >>Jesper>>| There are other rewards than money. >> >>jcm>> Al summed it up quite well earlier. Jeff probably wants to get >>the jcm>> lining on his tinfoil hat thickened to avoid the brain >>lazers getting in >>jcm>> any further. Check those bushes for Novell snipers too - you >>never know >>jcm>> when they'll pop out and come to get you, like everyone else >>everywhere. >> >>*Strong medication*. Very strong. Now with added eucalyptus! It'll >>make removing all that code easier. Ya know, you don't like cdrom >>support in your kernel (and claim it corrupts memory on your SuSE >>box...that's cute) but I've never much like memory management or >>CPU support in my kernel. I say you rip out everything under >>kernel/ and mm/ just in case. After all, Novell operatives might >>have secretly corrupted it, eh? ;-). >> >>|>50,000USD is a patheticly small amount to pay for the kernel, >>|> there's nothing wrong with the current licensing model, and >>|> people already make big bucks from Linux. Several of those aren't >>|> just dot-coms that went tits up later either - and most of them >>|> emply core kernel hackers. >> >>I meant that too. Just think about it - with the number of >>contributors in the kernel you'll have to offer a lot of money >>before even a few of them start to hear cash register sounds in >>their head. I expect it is graphable, but I've never actually that >>eye-rolling-dollar-sign thing that happens in the various cartoons. >>By the time it's diluted down, is the guy entitled to 0.05 cents >>really going to be suddenly convinced that all this time he was >>secretly after money but didn't realize it? >> >>| Not for a license to a single snapshot of a single 2.6.X or 2.4.X >>| version. >> >>I'd argue that the kernel is entirely priceless. It's better than >>that, more advanced, now extra-caffeinated with added pro-V >>complex! >> >>| I agree this isn't about money. >> >>...oh but you think this pointless endeavour of yours will actually >>get you somewhere other than in even more killfiles. I really >>shouldn't feed the troll but it's oh so hard to resist. I mean, you >>seem like a fun crazy sort of guy. So far I've seen: >> >>~ *). Intense bitterness at Novell. >>~ *). Signs of paranoid delusion. >>~ *). A fundamental missunderstanding of the GPL. >>~ *). Various other random craziness. >> >>Tell me, Mr Jeff, of various mail domains (does that make you feel >>bigger and better than the rest of us?) are you funded by Microsoft >>to suggest this stuff or do you truly believe it? Really? Truly? I >>mean, I'd much rather hear you're being paid to say this shite. >> >>| It's about control and using the GPL to control what happens. >> >>...by undermininging it and opening the floor to bribary. What would >>those damn Novell snipers say about that? >> >>| The offer is for real. >> >>I doubt that greatly. Actually no, I don't. I believe there are >>crazy people in the US with lots of money who'll think this is a >>good idea. >> >>Jon. > > > Yeah there are Jon, and his initials are probably BG. I've been > following this thread, first in amazement, followed by disbelief, > since it started yesterday, and the only thing my 6th sense is > telling me is that this is an attempt to undermine the GPL by someone > like M$ so that they can take it to court and successfully render it > moot. > > At one point he's talking about $50,000 for a snapshot, then next he's > saying $50,000 per copyright holder, and how that would end up being > millions. A new story with almost every message, and coming from > several addresses, at one point from drdos.com, so I went over to see > if he was actually listed there but couldn't find a reference. Ditto > for the *panogas address. And I haven't looked at comcast as that is > an ISP with several million addresses IIRC. > > This old (70, and more user than coder now) fart associate member of > the FSF is more and more convinced he's a troll, out only to > contaminate the GPL and a few million to do that is just chicken feed > to his backers. And make no mistake, the sucessfull contamination of > the GPL could be worth many billions of dollars to M$ et all. Thats > the most obvious 'SWAG' candidate as the real source of all this > largess. > > My $0.02: Deal with the likes of him at the peril of the GPL. > > Here's another question that needs answered too, why the hell isn't > Linus in the To: or Cc: list? (He is now!) After all, his approval > would be the first thing you would need, isn't it Jeff? Again, one > more clue that this looks like the fox, trying to sneak in under the > henhouse radar. >
A bit of a historical note is in order. Jeff used to work for Novell... And had more than a small dispute with them over some linux code he did that allowed linux to, as I recall, do things with netware 4.x. Novell took exception as at the time the only other code that did it was closed source distributed through Caldera. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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