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    SubjectRe: My thoughts on the "new development model"
    On Tuesday 26 October 2004 07:09, Massimo Cetra wrote:
    > > On Tuesday 26 October 2004 01:40, Chuck Ebbert wrote:
    > > > Bill Davidsen wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > I don't see the need for a development kernel, and it is
    > > desirable
    > > > > to be
    > > > > able to run kernels.
    > > >
    > > > Problem is, 'release' kernels are quite buggy. For
    > > > example 2.6.9 has a long list of bugs:
    > > >
    > > > Sure, the next release will (may?) fix these bugs, but it will
    > > > definitely add a whole set of new ones.
    > >
    > > To my mind this just points out the need for a bug fix
    > > branch. e.g. a
    > > branch containing just bug/security fixes against the current
    > > stable kernel. It might also be worth keeping the branch
    > > active for the n-1 stable kernel too.
    > To my mind, we only need to make clear that a stable kernel is a stable
    > kernel.
    > Not a kernel for experiments.
    > To my mind, stock 2.6 kernels are nice for nerds trying patches and
    > willing to recompile their kernel once a day. They are not suitable for
    > servers. Several times on testing machines, switching from a 2.6 to the
    > next one has caused bugs on PCI, acpi, networking and so on.
    > The direction is lost. How many patchsets for vanilla kernel exist?
    > Someone has decided that linux must go on desktops as well and
    > developing new magnificent features for desktop users is causing serious
    > problems to the ones who use linux at work on production servers.
    > 2.4 tree is still the best solution for production.
    > 2.6 tree is great for gentoo users who like gcc consuming all CPU
    > (maxumum respect to gentoo but I prefer debian)

    The issue is that Linus _has_ changed the development model. What we have
    now is more flexable and much more responsive to changes. This does
    lead to stable releases that are not quite a stable as some of the previous
    stable series... This is why I suggest a fix/security branch. The idea being
    that after a month or so of fixes etc it will be a very stable kernel and it will
    not have slowed down development.

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