Messages in this thread | | | From | Rusty Russell <> | Subject | Re: PATCH: (as177) Add class_device_unregister_wait() and platform_device_unregister_wait() to the driver model core | Date | Wed, 28 Jan 2004 14:54:21 +1100 |
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In message <Pine.LNX.4.58.0401280304180.7851@serv> you write: > Hi Rusty, > > On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Rusty Russell wrote: > > > > Fixing this requires changing every single module, but in the end it > > > would be worth it, as it avoids the duplicated protection and we had > > > decent module unload semantics. > > > > And I still disagree. <shrug> > > And I still don't know why. :(
Exactly. So we have this same conversation over and over. It's the single most frustrating experience I've ever had in kernel development. 8( I was very disappointed you didn't make it to the kernel summit.
> Well, the problem is that this won't be an one man show, it requires that > a number of kernel hackers understand the problem and the possible > solutions are discussed beforehand. I can understand that a lot here are > scared of such big change, but either we either continue complaining about > module unloading or we do something about it and this requires exploring > the various possibilities.
Even if the perfect scheme were achieved, I don't think Linus would accept changing every module. I was originally agitating for a "perfect" solution, so few of us cared.
Linus has said it simply isn't important. Many kernel developers basically agree.
> Rusty, you are the modules maintainer, you are supposed to understand > these issues, if you already block a discussion like that, what am I > supposed to expect from others?
I'm sorry. I tried to stay out of these discussions (hey maybe someone will come up with a great solution!), but when Linus posted something which was basically incorrect, I felt I had to clear the record.
For me, this issue long ago used up its timeslice. Rusty. -- Anyone who quotes me in their sig is an idiot. -- Rusty Russell. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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