Messages in this thread | | | Date | Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:30:51 +0200 | From | Jens Axboe <> | Subject | Re: Kernel includefile bug not fixed after a year :-( |
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On Tue, Sep 30 2003, Andreas Steinmetz wrote: > Jens Axboe wrote: > >On Tue, Sep 30 2003, Andreas Steinmetz wrote: > > > >>Jens Axboe wrote: > >> > >>>I think I do. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>In order to use kernel interfaces you _need_ to include kernel include > >>>>files. > >>> > >>> > >>>False. You need to include the glibc kernel headers. > >>> > >> > >>Then please tell me why PPPIOCNEWUNIT is only defined in linux/if_ppp.h > >>and not net/if_ppp.h which is still true for glibc-2.3.2. And please > >>don't tell me to ask the glibc folks. There are inconsistencies between > >>kernel headers and userland headers which force the inclusion of kernel > >>headers in userland applications. > > > > > >I will tell you to talk to the glibc folks, because that's where your > >problem is. > > > I don't think so. If ioctls are introduced in the kernel the kernel > people should propagate these to the glibc people. I don't think it is > the task of userland developers.
It's not solely their responsibility, I agree. Just see my mail to davem. Did you tell the glibc folks about the missing ioctls?
> But then this is my point of view and I don't think it necessary to > discuss this further.
Agree. It's long been established that kernel headers aren't always suitable for user space inclusion, this discussion doesn't change that fact.
-- Jens Axboe
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