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SubjectRe: multibooting the linux kernel
Jim Carter wrote:

>On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Nufarul Alb wrote:
>>>>There is a patch for the kernel that make it able to preload modules
>>>>before the acutal booting.
>Perhaps I'm misunderstanding the issue, but this sounds like a job for
>initrd. Someone jokingly mentioned booting wirelessly through a
>cipe pipe, so you would stick iwconfig and cipe (and your RAID driver and
>all the other wierd stuff) in the initrd. A lot of distros do this for you
>automatically, including SuSE.
>So how are the kernel and initrd images read? Grub has drivers for a fair
>number of devices, and can read i86 BIOS-supported discs, conventional
>Ethernet, some RAID (I think), etc. You can't load modules from your
>regular filesystem until you can read your filesystem, meaning that the
>module used to read your filesystem has to be provided by some other means.
>Like initrd.
>Hope this helps rather than smokes up the issue.
>James F. Carter Voice 310 825 2897 FAX 310 206 6673
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the use of initrd is a real pain in the butt. with multibooting GRUB
loads the modules into memory and the kernel can take them from there.
In this way the main kernel can be smaller, you won't need built-in
filesystem drivers (they will be preloaded by GRUB), you will not have
to recompile the entire kernel all the time, but only the modules.

The MAIN THING that a multiboot kernel will solve is the problem of
module portability. I think that the reason why hardware producers are
not making drivers for linux is that they have to make them open source
in order to be compiled by every user. With multibooting it become
possible to make a standard type of the main image of the kernel and all
the modules will be built for it. So, the hardware vendors won't have to
make public their sources and they will be encouraged to write drivers.

AND besides all that you can do many operations before mounting the
actual root like, for example, make a module that encapsulates a nice
boot animation, a progress bar, show the services start in a nice
graphical way on top of the framebuffer.Of course this can be done with
the current kernel, but you have to rebuild the entire kernel each time,
errors will appear all the time.

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