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SubjectRequested FAQ addition - Mandrake and partial-i686 platforms
Apparently, there is an issue with glibc on versions less than 2.3.1-15 
(and maybe others), where it mistakenly treats CPUs as full i686
compliant when they only execute a subset of the i686 instructions. For
example, the VIA C3 supports pretty much everything i686 except CMOV,
yet the broken versions of glibc will detect it as fully i686 compliant.

From someone who emailed me privately, this apparently affects K6-III
as well. Possibly other Cyrix or AMD CPUs are affected, though I don't
have a complete list.

The problem is that Mandrake 9.1 ships with a broken glibc. So you would
expect that the incorrectly detected CPUs just wouldn't work. But
apparently, Mandrake added a CMOV instruction emulator patch to their
kernel, both the one that ships precompiled and the source rpm.

So people will find that compiling the Mandrake version works fine, yet
any kernel downloaded from, 2.6 or other, will not work at
all. The symptom is that booting the shiny new kernel will hang after
"Freeing unused kernel memory". Doing a magic sysreq will reveal that
/sbin/init is executing do_invalid_op(). You can keep pressing the magic
sysreq stack dump key, and you will keep getting a new stack trace.
Caps-lock works, and CTRL-ALT-DEL will reboot the machine.

There are three possible workarounds:
1) Upgrade glibc to a working version. I haven't done this myself, so I
don't know if the bug has been fixed yet. But it would be the best solution.
2) Remove i686 libraries from glibc. This can be done by 'mv /lib/i686
/lib/i686.invalid'. This is what I did, and it works. While some
performance is lost, it's not noticeable, especially given that the
stock Mandrake kernel is i386 compatible, and so has limited optimization.
3) Reapply the CMOV emulation patch to your downloaded kernel. Not
recommended since it turns one CPU cycle into 400.


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