Messages in this thread | | | From | Artemio <> | Subject | Re: SMP question | Date | Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:42:42 +0300 |
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Hello!
> > I'm building a hard real-time Linux (RTLinux) system on a 2x Xeon > > machine. If > > then LKML is not the place for you. RTLinux is a fork of "real" linux.
Well, those guys seem to have success on the same machines that I fail.
I even used *their* .config file to compile a kernel, but I still fail.
> well, talk to the rtlinux people. considering what rtlinux changes from > real linux, this hang is not a big surprise.
Yes, rtlinux runs linux kernel as it's idle thread, and it messes up the system - I mean it becomes more difficult to make it work if it doesn't work.
> > So, I have to deside between these two: > > > > - Run rtlinux and hard-realtime applications on a kernel without SMP > > support. How much performance will I loose this way? Is SMP *THAT* > > critical? > > huh? it's not critical at all. though if you have two processors, > you've just wasted several hundred dollars unless you run SMP.
:-)
> > - Run all tasks in a usual way, no hard realtime, but with SMP support. > > why do you think you need rtlinux-type realtime?
Hmm... Nice question.
We are to run many applications that will be mission-critical. That's why we decided to make them in hard-realtime.
The other way is probably making low-priority kernel threads by usual means.
But I think hard-realtime will give us more performance.
> > Also, if I turn hyperthreading off, how will it influence the system with > > SMP support? Without SMP support? > > HT is just hardware-supported multithreading - imagine that you have > the same old processor, except that the CPU's instruction-dispatcher > is reading from two instruction streams. HT doesn't add any new resources, > just shares a single CPU among two threads.
Got it.
> I suspect the design of rtlinux is inherently incompatible with HT.
I will try turning HT off and running RTLinux.
Thank you very much for your reply!
Artemio.
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