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SubjectRe: The disappearing sys_call_table export.
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On Wed, 2003-05-07 at 20:33, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, 7 May 2003, petter wahlman wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2003-05-07 at 18:59, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> > > On Wed, 7 May 2003, petter wahlman wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 2003-05-07 at 18:00, Richard B. Johnson wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, 7 May 2003, petter wahlman wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It seems like nobody belives that there are any technically valid
> > > > > > reasons for hooking system calls, but how should e.g anti virus
> > > > > > on-access scanners intercept syscalls?
> > > > > > Preloading libraries, ptracing init, patching g/libc, etc. are
> > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > > > |________ Is the way to go. That's how
> > > > > you communicate every system-call to a user-mode daemon that
> > > > > does whatever you want it to do, including phoning the National
> > > > > Security Administrator if that's the policy.
> > > > >
> > > > > > obviously not the way to go.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Oviously wrong.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > And how would you force the virus to preload this library?
> > > >
> > > > -p.
> > > >
> > >
> > > The same way you would force a virus to not be statically linked.
> > > You make sure that only programs that interface with the kernel
> > > thorugh your hooks can run on that particular system.
> > >
> >
> > Can you please elaborate.
> > How would you implement the access control without modifying the
> > respective syscalls or the system_call(), and would you'r
> > solution be possible to implement run time?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
>
> The program loader for shared-library programs is ld.so or
> ld-linux.so. It's the thing that mmaps the shared libraries
> and, eventually calls _start: in the beginning of the program:
>
> execve("/bin/ps", ["ps"], [/* 32 vars */]) = 0
> brk(0) = 0x804c748
> open("/etc/ld.so.preload", O_RDONLY) = 3 <<<<<<--- your hooks here!!
> fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
> old_mmap(NULL, 0, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0
> close(3) = 0
>

That would work on dynamically linked executables, but how do you control
access to file shares or static executables.? Denying access to the latter
would even prevent ldconfig from running.


Regards,


-p.



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