Messages in this thread | | | Date | Sat, 4 Jan 2003 14:23:30 -0800 | From | Larry McVoy <> | Subject | Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers? |
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On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 11:06:51PM +0100, Matthias Andree wrote: > It's useful to have people around that think in other directions, they > make up for innovation. Linux is an offspring of such people's thoughts.
Linux is a copy of Unix. There is very little new stuff in Linux. All of the innovation is built on top of a copy of a commercial work.
To date, nothing remotely as influential as Unix has come out of the open source community. Sure, there are a ton of copies of existing work, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about new things. I keep coming back to this because some of you refuse to get it. It costs A LOT OF MONEY TO MAKE NEW STUFF. Because we are stupid, we all make a lot of mistakes, we throw away those mistakes. The free software model doesn't generate 1/1000th of the money it would take to make progress continue at its current rate in the software world. Don't believe me? Cool. Go start a company, GPL your work, get back to me in 5 years and show me how well it worked.
Other than distributions, where are those free software success stories? Oh, yes, Cygnus. They were doing about $25M/year or so when redhat bought them. Whoopee. And Red Hat, *with* Cygnus, is doing all of $80M/year. And we all agree that they are the leader in the free software financial success stories, right? Who's bigger? IBM? Let's see, spent $1B and by their own statements "almost have made that back". Hmm, running at a loss but going to make it up on volume.
Now let's compare to some closed source companies:
Company Factor more revenue than Red Hat Microsoft 370 Oracle 116 Sun 150
You get the idea. Sun makes more in 2 days than Red Hat makes all year. It doesn't even take Microsoft a whole day to make what Red Hat makes in a year.
> This is exaggerated, but it might help stepping back and looking at the > WHOLE system.
Indeed. Look over your shoulder. That's me, stepped way farther back than you. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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