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SubjectRe: [PATCH] 10/10 sound/oss/dmasound/dmasound_q40.c

[ More examples of emails that didn't make it to me, with a public warning
to the kernel list. I'm going through my last 1000 received emails to
see which ones were incorrectly marked spam: that seems to have happened
to exactly 2 of them right now, your 5/10 and Hans' 3/3.

On the whole I'm pretty happy, since it automatically deleted 150+ real
spam emails over the last two days alone, so the few false positives
aren't going to make me switch - I'll just try to convince people to
fix their mailers instead. ]

your emails tend to be marked as spam for me. This one, for example, came
_really_ close to my not-very-aggressive filter limit, and since I never
received PATCH 5/10 I suspect that got eaten.

The reasons your emails seem to be considered spammish by spamassassing


because of this:

(a) your email software is broken and does not add a message ID, so the
ID gets added by one of the _relaying_ stations instead of your own

Message-Id: <>
Received: from ([]) by (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id
H261D300.AEV; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 03:05:27 -0700

Spam detectors consider emails without original message ID's to be
likely bulk output.

(b) Your email From address is


which looks more automated than a named person (ie it _likes_ seeing
something like this:

From: (Peter Waechtler)

instead, which looks more like a real person than an automated
address - and also allows the quoted reply to look a lot more

(c) your date is bogus:

Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 21:56:27 +0200

even though the mail was received "Mon, 9 Sep 2002". Again, this
tends to make spam detectors _think_ that the email body was
auto-generated rather than generated by a real mail client.

Your mailer seems to be

X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.482)

which is apparently a total piece of cr*p software.

NOTE! This email actually got past the spam filter despite all these
problems. But the problems get it "close enough" to be considered spam
that any additional issues (if you were to send an all-caps subject line,
for example) would take it over the line. That seems to have happened with
patch 5/10, for example.


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