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    SubjectRe: [linux-usb-devel] Re: [BK PATCH] USB changes for 2.5.34
    On Sunday 15 September 2002 20:06, Linus Torvalds wrote:
    > On Sun, 15 Sep 2002, Daniel Phillips wrote:
    > >
    > > Let's try a different show of hands: How many users would be happier if
    > > they knew that kernel developers are using modern techniques to improve
    > > the quality of the kernel?
    > You're all talk and no action.
    > The last time I looked, the people who really _do_ improve the quality of
    > the kernel don't tend to care too much about debuggers, or are at least
    > capable to add a patch on their own.

    Oh sure. So last week's page release race counts as no action, and htree
    is not the fastest directory index in the known universe. I could go on.
    What I do not do is rub people's faces in every little thing I do. Please
    remember who found the last truncate race of the year, just before

    > In fact, of the people who opened their mouth about the BUG() issue, how
    > many actually ended up personally _debugging_ the BUG() that we were
    > talking about?

    I am personally working on a different problem.

    > I did. Matt probably did. But I didn't see you fixing it with your
    > debugger.

    I am setting up the debugger to work on the DAC960.

    > So next time you bring up the kernel debugger issue, show some code and
    > real improvement first. Until then, don't spout off.

    You're shooting way wide of the target.

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