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    SubjectRe: RFC: per-socket statistics on received/dropped packets
    At 08:33 AM 12/06/2002 -0400, jamal wrote:
    > > i know of many many folk who use transaction logs from HTTP caches for
    > > volume-based billing.
    > > right now, those bills are anywhere between 10% to 25% incorrect.
    > >
    > > you call that "extremely limited"?
    >
    >Surely, you must have better ways to do accounting than this -- otherwise
    >you deserve to loose money.

    many people don't have better ways to do accounting than this.

    in the case of Squid and Linux, they're typically using it because its
    open-source and "free".

    they want to use HTTP Caching to save bandwidth (and therefore save money),
    but they also live in a regime of volume-based billing. (not everywhere on
    the planet is fixed-$/month for DSL).

    the unfortunate solution is to use HTTP Transaction logs, which count
    payload at layer-7, not payload+headers+retransmissions at layer-3.

    > > of course, i am doing exactly what Dave said to do -- maintaining my own
    > > out-of-kernel patch -- but its a pain, i'm sure it will soon conflict with
    > > stuff and is a damn shame - it isn't much code, but Dave seems pretty
    > > steadfast that he isn't interested.
    >
    >You havent proven why its needed. And from the looks of it you dont even
    >need it.

    i don't need it because i already have it in my kernel.
    but thats where it ends -- its destined to forever be a private patch.

    >If 3 people need it, then i would like to ask we add lawn mower
    >support that my relatives have been asking for the last 5 years.

    lawn-mower support sounds like a userspace application to me.


    cheers,

    lincoln.

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