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SubjectRe: [PATCH][RFC] P4/Xeon Thermal LVT support
On Sat, 30 Mar 2002, Pavel Machek wrote:

> Overheat is not neccessarily hardware failure.

It is the failing condition. It need not be a result of a hardware
failure.

> You see, I have a notebook. I put pen in it to stop the fan. Hardware
> is pretty much okay, but, well, pen does not allow fan to spin.

A fan blockage is a hardware failure as well. Regardless of the reason.
It certainly isn't a software failure.

> What's the best behaviour? Throttle is okay.

Sure that is a way to protect the CPU but it may fail if the reason is
not heat emitted by the CPU.

> And now, you have fire at server room. All cpus throtle, then are
> burn. Does it matter if they throttled? No.

But it matters if an operator got warned before (that is what I remarked
originally). The operator may be in a distant location. Or he may be
nearby and be able to act to stop the fire once he gets a message.

> So it seems to me throttle is always right answer.

Sure it is a way to try to recover, if hardware provides it, but it's
completely orthogonal to the question whether to report a thermal problem
or not and at which priority.

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