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SubjectRe: [SOLUTION] Re: Fw: 2.4.18-pre9: iptables screwed?
On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 01:11:51PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:

> What is the first thing anyone would do if they had a problem with
> iptables? Turn on debugging, obviously.

yes, I totally agree. I'm not arguing that the current behaviour is OK -
of course it should work with debugging enabled. All I said is that under
normal circumstances a production system is not supposed to have debugging

> 2 - it really should work, debug should find errors, not cause them.

of course. That is why debugging does extra checks, which are disabled
in production use. Unfortunately we missed one check...

> 3 - Perhaps debug could be disabled but default, so instead of needing
> NDEBUG in production, you would use -DDEBUG when you had a problem
> (and it might even work ;-).

Yes, this is what I'm doing for the iptables-1.2.6 release. The current
-DNDEBUG stuff has historical reasons which are no longer valid.

> bill davidsen <>

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