Messages in this thread | | | Date | Sat, 2 Nov 2002 00:17:07 -0500 (EST) | From | Bill Davidsen <> | Subject | Re: What's left over. |
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On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Steven King wrote:
> On Friday 01 November 2002 11:18 am, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > To add insult to injury, you will not be able to actually _test_ any of > > the real error paths in real life. Sure, you will be able to test forced > > dumps on _your_ hardware, but while that is fine in the AIX model ("we > > control the hardware, and charge the user five times what it is worth"), > > again that doesn't mean _squat_ in the PC hardware space. > > On the other hand, ISC's system 5 r3 ran on commodity x86 hardware and the > crash dumper worked on the various disk hardware I had occasion to use it on > (mfm, scsi, ide), although one did need to make sure swap was larger than ram > or bad things would happen. 8-{.
The thing is that Solaris, AIX, and ISC are written by commercial companies, they realize that customers need to be able to debug systems which don't have a screen, a serial printer, etc. They do have disk.
I was hoping Alan would push Redhat to put this in their Linux so we could resolve some of the ongoing problems which don't write an oops to a log, but I guess none of the developers has to actually support production servers and find out why they crash.
-- bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com> CTO, TMR Associates, Inc Doing interesting things with little computers since 1979.
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