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    SubjectRe: What's left over.
    On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Ville Herva wrote:
    > On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 06:31:36PM -0800, you [Linus Torvalds] wrote:
    > > > Crash Dumping (LKCD)
    > >
    > > This is definitely a vendor-driven thing. I don't believe it has any
    > > relevance unless vendors actively support it.
    >
    > I don't think this is just a vendor thing. Currently, linux doesn't have any
    > way of saving the crash dump when the box crashes. So if it crashes, the
    > user needs to write the oops down by hand (error prone, the interesting part
    > has often scrolled off screen), or attach a serial console (then he needs to
    > reproduce it - not always possible, and actually majority of people (home
    > users) don't have second box and the cable. Nor the motivation.)

    Except on m68k, where we've had a feature to store all kernel messages in an
    unused portion of memory (e.g. some Chip RAM on Amiga) and recover them after
    reboot since ages.

    Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

    Geert

    --
    Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

    In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
    when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
    -- Linus Torvalds

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