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SubjectRe: 2.4.17:Increase number of anonymous filesystems beyond 256?
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On Thursday, 17. January 2002 19:55, Pete Zaitcev wrote:
> >[from linux-kernel]
> > I have to increase the number of anonymous filesystems the kernel can
> > handle and found the array unnamed_dev_in_use fs/super.c and changed the
> > array size from the default of 256 to 1024. Testing this patch by
> > mounting more and more NFS-filesystems I found that still no more than
> > 800 NFS mounts are possible. One more mount results in the kernel saying:
...
>
> Initially I did a sysctl, but Trond M. asked for a mount
> argument, in case you have to mount from several servers,
> some of which require reserved ports, some do not.
> Our NetApps work ok with non-reserved ports on clients.
>
> I am surprised anyone is interested. If you need more than 800
> mounts I think your system planning may be screwed.
>

First of all, thank you for your answer. Well I don't think that such a setup
is really screwed. Just as a reasoning I can give some examples why I think
that it is basically very useful for many sites running a large count of
users:

At our site we store all user (~4000 users) data
centrally on several NFS servers (running solaris up to now). In order to
ease administration we chose the approach to mount each user directory
direcly (via automount configured by NIS) on a NFS client where the user
wants to access his data. The most
important effect of this is, that each users directory is always reachable
under the path /home/<user>. This proofed to be very useful (from the
administrators point of view) when moving users from one server to another,
installing additionl NFS servers etc, because the only path the user knows
about and sees when e.g. issuing pwd is /home/<user>. The second advantage
is, that there is no need to touch the client system: No need for NFS mounts
in /etc/fstab to mount the servers export directory and so there are no
unneeded dependencies frpm any client to the NFS servers.

Now think of a setup where no user directory mounts are configured but the
whole directory of a NFS server with many users is exported. Of course this
makes things easyer for the NFS-system since only one mount is needed but on
the client you need to create link trees or something similar so the user
still can access his home under /home/<user> and not something like
/home/server1/<user>. Moreover even if you create link trees when you issue
commands like pwd you see the real path (eg /server1/<user>) instead of the
logical (/home/<user>). Such paths are soon written into scripts etc, so that
if the user is moved sometime later things will be broken.
You simply loose a layer of abstraction if you do not mount the users dir
directly. The only other solution I know of would be amd. Amd automatically
places a link. But since we come from the sun world, we simply uses suns
automounter and there were no problems up to now.

As another not umcommon setup you might think of NAS storage in a larger
company. Again you have the choice to mount on a per user basis or you mount
the parent directory containing many users. In the latter case again you
loose the /home abstraction to some degree.

So I think it would be really good to have at least the option to have more
than 256 NFS mounts even if one has to use unsecure ports for this purpose.

Thanks
Rainer
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