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    SubjectMicrosoft and Xenix.
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    >Rob Landley ( wrote
    >In late '79 early '80, they heard the rumors that IBM was pondering a PC,
    > and Paul Allen went "any real computer will run Unix", so they got a
    >license from AT&T and ported the sucker, calling it "Xenix". (MS was a
    >porting house,

    I hope the following adds a more direct perspective on this, as I was a user
    at the time.

    I was working (and still am) for a UK computer systems integrator called
    Logica. One of our departments sold and supported Xenix (as distributor for
    Microsoft? - all the manuals had Logica on the covers although there was at
    least some mention of Microsoft inside) in the UK. At the time it ONLY ran
    on PDP 11's and I used it to build a configuration management system (on top
    of SCCS) for the telemetry product that I was responsible for. I acquired
    Xenix for my department in 1984

    It was more like (can't remember exactly when) 1985/1986 that Xenix got
    ported to the IBM PC. I remember because we were evaluating software to use
    for our telemetry workstations (which previously had been using expensive
    special graphics hardware and we were trying to see if we could use a PC
    instead) and I was comparing Xenix, GEM (remember that - for a time it looked
    like it might be ahead of windows) and Microsoft Windows v 1 . We chose
    Windows in the end for its graphics capability although by the time we
    started development it was up to v2 and we were using 286's (this was

    >Xenix was unloaded on the Santa-Cruz operation almost

    Logica sold out its Xenix operation to Santa-Cruz around 1987 (definately
    before October 1987) because we couldn't afford the costs of developing the
    product (which makes me think that we had bought it out from Microsoft - at
    least in the UK). By then we had switched our PDP 11s to System V (I also
    remember BUYING an editor called "emacs" for use on it:-) ).


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