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SubjectRe: Why side-effects on open(2) are evil. (was Re: [RFD w/info-PATCH]device arguments from lookup)
On Thu, 24 May 2001, Marko Kreen wrote:

> On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 02:23:27AM +0200, Edgar Toernig wrote:
> > Daniel Phillips wrote:
> > > > > It's going to be marked 'd', it's a directory, not a file.
> > > >
> > > > Aha. So you lose the S_ISCHR/BLK attribute.
> > >
> > > Readdir fills in a directory type, so ls sees it as a directory and does
> > > the right thing. On the other hand, we know we're on a device
> > > filesystem so we will next open the name as a regular file, and find
> > > ISCHR or ISBLK: good.
> >
> > ??? The kernel may know it, but the app? Or do you really want to
> > give different stat data on stat(2) and fstat(2)? These flags are
> > currently used by archive/backup prgs. It's a hint that these files
> > are not regular files and shouldn't be opened for reading.
> > Having a 'd' would mean that they would really try to enter the
> > directory and save it's contents. Don't know what happens in this
> > case to your "special" files ;-)
>
> IMHO the CHR/BLK is not needed. Think of /proc. In the future,
> the backup tools will be told to ignore /dev, that's all.

The /dev dir should not be special. At least not to the kernel. I have
device files in places other than /dev, and you probably do too (hint:
anonymous FTP).

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