Messages in this thread | | | From | Dave Cinege <> | Subject | Re: Booting a modular kernel through a multiple streams file | Date | Sun, 23 Dec 2001 12:57:09 -0500 |
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On Sunday 23 December 2001 8:48, Alan Cox wrote: > > And vendors who've shipped GRUB still have to ship Lilo because Grub plain > doesn't work on some machines.
This is an issue with how GRUB deals with a FUBAR BIOS, and not necessarily a core GRUB design flaw.
Syslinux, seems to win hands down (IMO) when it comes to dealing with flacky BIOS's, but it's not because it's a dynamic loading design; it's because HPA knew enough and spent the time refining that 1% of the program that deals with bad BIOSes.
Should HPA and Werner take a day of their time to review and correct GRUB, I'm sure this issue would vanish overnight.
> Lilo has the virtue that its extremely > simple in what it does and how it does it. It works in a suprisingly large > number of cases and can handle interesting setups that GRUB really > struggles with.
Where GRUB struggles LILO throws up brickwalls.
Coolest thing is the world you can do with grub: Load a *partition* as your initrd With this in mind it makes using images/archives for initrd for non-embedded systems seem rather clunky. It's much cleaner to just have an 8/16/32MB partition you dedicate to initrd. Users of GRUB have been able to do this for YEARS.
And something to say here: Yes I hate lilo, but not because I think Werner coded it lousy. A boot loader that uses a static block offset to find it's target is a bad idea, that should have died with M$-DOS.
That said, it's still a wonder to me why GRUB, or another loader similar in approach, was not adopted as the 'prefered' linux loader years ago.
Dave
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