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On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, Jens Axboe wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 14 2001, Gérard Roudier wrote:
> > > I fixed the problem by seeing what the sym
> > > driver did i.e. the patch below
> > > This may not be right at all, and I haven't had a
> > > chance to boot the kernel - but it did build OK.
> >
> > The ncr53c8xx and sym53c8xx version 1 use the obsolete scsi eh handling.
> > Moving the eh code from sym53c8xx_2 (version 2) to ncr53c8xx/sym53c8xx is
> > quite feasible, but may-be it is just useless given sym53c8xx_2. For now,
> > it seems that sym53c8xx_2 replaces both ncr/sym53c8xx without any loss of
> > reliability and performance.
> Gerard,
> For 2.5, why don't we just yank old sym and ncr out of the kernel? Is
> there _any_ reason to keep the two older ones given your new driver
> handles it all?

On my side, there is obviously no reason to keep them in 2.5, as sym-2 is
intended to replace them both. Personnaly I have switched to sym-2 on my
systems since several months.

However, I donnot consider myself as the only owner of these drivers. The
owners are all people that may need symbios chips support under Linux. My
personnal vote, as a user/owner, is to remove them and rely for symbios
chip support on sym-2.


Linux stable is a different issue. For this one, I would prefer the old
drivers to remain in place for a longer time. However, I personnaly will
not track bugs on old drivers if either,

- The problem also shows up in sym-2. Then I will try to fix sym-2,
- Or the problem simply doesn't occur in sym-2.

This will apply to problems reported directly by users or by packagers.

By the way, for now, I haven't received any report about sym-2 failing
when sym-1 or ncr succeeds, and my feeling is that this could well be very

But I can make mistakes, me too. :-)


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