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    SubjectRe: PROPOSAL: dot-proc interface [was: /proc stuff]
    Jakob Østergaard wrote:
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    > On Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 06:28:47PM +0100, Daniel Phillips wrote:
    > > On November 4, 2001 05:45 pm, Tim Jansen wrote:
    > > > > The dot-proc file is basically a binary encoding of Lisp (or XML), e.g. it
    > > > > is a list of elements, wherein an element can itself be a list (or a
    > > >
    > > > Why would anybody want a binary encoding?
    > >
    > > Because they have a computer?
    >
    > Yes - good reason :)
    >
    > The "fuzzy parsing" userland has to do today to get useful information
    > out of many proc files today is not nice at all. It eats CPU, it's
    > error-prone, and all in all it's just "wrong".
    >
    > However - having a human-readable /proc that you can use directly with
    > cat, echo, your scripts, simple programs using read(), etc. is absolutely
    > a *very* cool feature that I don't want to let go. It is just too damn
    > practical.
    >
    > But building a piece of software that needs to reliably read out status
    > information from a system providing something more and more resembling a GUI in
    > text-files is becoming unnecessarily time-consuming and error-prone.
    >
    > >
    > > > It needs special parsers and will be almost impossible to access from shell
    > > > scripts.
    > >
    > > No, look, he's proposing to put the binary encoding in hidden .files. The
    > > good old /proc files will continue to appear and operate as they do now.
    > >
    >
    > Exactly.
    >
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    A good reason could be that a simple ps -aux uses hundreds of system
    calls to get the list of all the processes ...
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