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    SubjectRe: Coding style - a non-issue

    On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Victor Yodaiken wrote:
    > > And don't EVER make the mistake that you can design something better than
    > > what you get from ruthless massively parallel trial-and-error with a
    > > feedback cycle. That's giving your intelligence _much_ too much credit.
    > Linux is what it is because of design, not accident. And you know
    > that better than anyone.

    Let's just be honest, and admit that it wasn't designed.

    Sure, there's design too - the design of UNIX made a scaffolding for the
    system, and more importantly it made it easier for people to communicate
    because people had a mental _model_ for what the system was like, which
    means that it's much easier to discuss changes.

    But that's like saying that you know that you're going to build a car with
    four wheels and headlights - it's true, but the real bitch is in the

    And I know better than most that what I envisioned 10 years ago has
    _nothing_ in common with what Linux is today. There was certainly no
    premeditated design there.

    And I will claim that nobody else "designed" Linux any more than I did,
    and I doubt I'll have many people disagreeing. It grew. It grew with a lot
    of mutations - and because the mutations were less than random, they were
    faster and more directed than alpha-particles in DNA.

    > The question is whether Linux can still be designed at
    > current scale.

    Trust me, it never was.

    And I will go further and claim that _no_ major software project that has
    been successful in a general marketplace (as opposed to niches) has ever
    gone through those nice lifecycles they tell you about in CompSci classes.
    Have you _ever_ heard of a project that actually started off with trying
    to figure out what it should do, a rigorous design phase, and a
    implementation phase?

    Dream on.

    Software evolves. It isn't designed. The only question is how strictly you
    _control_ the evolution, and how open you are to external sources of

    And too much control of the evolution will kill you. Inevitably, and
    without fail. Always. In biology, and in software.



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