Messages in this thread |  | | Date | Mon, 26 Nov 2001 16:03:54 -0800 (PST) | From | Andre Hedrick <> | Subject | Re: ext3: kjournald and spun-down disks |
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Daniel Kobras wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 05:25:46PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > > Also, if we had appropriate hooks into the request layer, we could detect > > when the disk was being spun up for a read, and opporunistically flush > > out any pending writes. > > Actually you can't. SCSI spinup code isn't very useful anyway, and IDE disks > mostly handle spinup themselves. The kernel has too issue a reset to get a > disk back alive from sleep mode, but revival from standby doesn't involve > the kernel at all. When using the disk's internal timer, it isn't involved in > spindown either. Teaching the request layer about disk state might therefore > turn out to become rather messy, I suspect.
No messier than corrupted data --
> > Tell me if this is joyful: > [...] > > - transaction->t_expires = jiffies + journal->j_commit_interval; > > + transaction->t_expires = jiffies + dirty_buffer_flush_interval(); > > This change doesn't take care of kupdated's most interesting feature, i.e. > that you can entirely stop it (with a flush interval of zero and/or a > SIGSTOP). Now, if kjournald honoured SIGSTOP/SIGCONT, I could teach noflushd > to handle the spindown issue in userland. Uh, at least for one small detail: > Is there a way to tell which kjournald process is associated to which > partition? A fake cmdline, or an fd to the partition's device node that > shows up in /proc/<pid>/fd would indeed be quite helpful.
LOL
The low-level spindles can not walk backwards to find a partition because of the bogus aliased/virtual LBA(0)s that litter a spindle. The LBA(0) count == Number of Partitions + 1;
This is utter crap but it is scheduled to be fixed in 2.5, now that it has started.
Solution : Do not partition use the entire raw device but that will not work because of the real LBA 0 -- EEK
Cheers,
Andre Hedrick CEO/President, LAD Storage Consulting Group Linux ATA Development Linux Disk Certification Project
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